TAKEDOWN: Evidence: Photo

This is a posting by Lewis De Payne, a friend of Kevin Mitnick's. Of particular note is the reference in the .sig to Kathleen Carson.
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From: lewiz@netcom.com (Lewis De Payne)
Subject: Re: Kevin Mitnick
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Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 09:04:45 GMT
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Carl D Lenocker stopped to think, then wrote:
:
:   The 31-year-old Mitnick, originally of Sepulveda, California, has
: demonstrated he can gain control of computers to monitor communications
: and can manufacture false IDs using computers, said Cunningham, adding,
: "He's always a step ahead of you, very difficult" to catch. 
:
Is the glass half-full or half-empty?
Is he always a step ahead or they always a step behind?

: UPI notes that as a teen-ager, Mitnick cracked the North American Air
: Defense Command computer, and used a modem to control the California
: phone switching centers and similar facilities in Manhattan. 

Oh yes... I remember people complaining about Hiroshima... that was
him, wasn't it?

:   The New York Times has reported Mitnick also listened in on calls and
: reprogrammed the home phone "of someone he did not like so that each time
: the phone was picked up, a recording asked for a deposit of 25 cents." 

That's interesting... here in Los Angeles, local calls are 20 cents.
How did he manage to make it ask for 25 cents for a local call??  Excuse
me while I reset my BULLSHIT detector, which is buzzing loudly right now.

: Several years ago, he was charged with electronically stealing $1
: million in secure software from Digital Equipment Corp., which forced
: the company to spend $160,000 to close up the gaps in its security.

Stealing $1 million in secure software?  Glad I wasn't the one to spend
the $1 million buying the allegedly "secure" software.  Why didn't they
arrest the software company for misrepresentation???  Can you imagine
that... having to spend $160,000 to secure your "secure" software.

: He was ordered into treatment by a federal judge in Los Angeles and 
: placed on supervisory probation in 1992, but he vanished from Southern 
: California that year, after officials alleged he had illegally cracked
: into Pacific Bell's computers. 

Is that when Terry Atchley kept asking "Did you use SAS"?

: Meanwhile, British authorities reportedly have launched an investi-
: gation of Mitnick's suspected illegal access into a computer system
: at Loughborough University, UPI says. 

I just want to know if Neill Clift is a suspect...  or informant.

: Saying the U.S. Marshal's Service and the FBI are asking the public for
: help to finding Mitnick, Cunningham said the suspect doesn't appear to be
: motivated by money. Authorities have tried to get his family to publicly
: urge him to surrender, but the effort is blocked by "their refusal to
: acknowledge his problem," she said. "He's not well...He's obsessive
: about this. He just can't stop." 

Perhaps the parents understand that the "therapy" involves ten or more
years in prison (without qualified psychiatric help) and a $100K defense.
Not all of us have $100K in liquid assets ready to spend on our hobby.

: Marshal's Service information "sheet" on the fugitive says, "Although
: Mitnick is not a typically dangerous criminal, his computer hacking is
: currently costing millions of dollars in both the public and private
: sector. Sensitive information illegally accessed by Mitnick would cause
: continued financial hardship to these various corporations if the
: information is ever disseminated to others."

I had a software program stolen from my home computer.  As the author,
I had hoped to sell the rights to it for $3.7 trillion dollars.  I guess
the monetary damages done to me are $3.7 trillion dollars.  Can I deduct
the loss from my tax return?

: It adds officials are not sure "to what extent Mitnick may have tampered
: with local, state or national law enforcement data bases to evade
: capture,"  and urges "extreme caution -- but not because he is thought to
: be physically dangerous."
:   The document warns law enforcement officers, "Please be aware that if
: Mitnick is taken into custody, he possesses an amazing ability to disrupt
: one's personal life through his computer knowledge, i.e. TRW's, phone
: service, etc.  Exercise extreme caution in leaving anything about which 
: would have personal information about themselves. 

This is sounding more like Justin Tanner Petersen (aka Erik Heinz, aka
Agent Steal) than Kevin Mitnick.  Why is it that it's always alright to
break the law, providing you're an informant for the FBI?

Sorry for breaking into your account again Lewis, but you were the
first that came to mind and I wanted to post this message.  We now
return you to your regularly scheduled program...

PS - Changing your password to the same one lenny uses won't
     help any...  I can still get it using the CISCO bug.


"Mum's the word" - Justin Petersen || cc: Kennie G. McGuire, SA, FBI, LA CA
"Did you use SAS?" - Terry Atchley ||     Kathleen "Hottub" Carson, SA, FBI
"I am not a crook" - Richard Nixon ||     Behave - or I'll tell Janet Reno!